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Initial D & Club Kart on racing cabs ?
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:09 pm
by OldFoo
Hi all
I'd like to know if these games (Cycraft versions excluded) could be played on a dedicated racing cab like Scud Race (SEGA Super GT) or Daytona USA ?
Thanks a lot.
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:37 pm
by OldFoo
they both exists on regular sitdown
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:46 pm
by OldFoo
Sure, but this is to avoid having 3 racing cabs, i manage in the future to get only one.
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:20 am
by OldFoo
Initial D uses a different type of feedback motor than what is normally used in driving cabs. Most driving cabs use a single-phase brush type motor while Initial D uses a tri-phase brushless motor with positional feedback electronics. Also, the feedback pcb electronics are different so, if you don't mind playing without force feedback, it might be ok. Also, sega driving games use 5k ohm resistors as opposed to other game types which use different resistance values (some are 100k!). Initial D also runs only in hi-res mode (VGA 640x480) so standard and medium resolutions monitors are out :smt009 .
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:46 am
by OldFoo
Actually Initial D motor is the same as you'd find in Scud Race/Super GT
Sega still use this 500W Servo motor in new games like SegaRace TV..
Only the feedback board that changes, the wiring from the feedback board is the same, and probably will be for future builds.. :smt020
So yes with a Tri-sync monitor and a midi driveboard and M3 to JVS wiring you could quite quickly add Initial D and other JVS driving games.
I've made the wiring for dual JVS and M2/M3 driving games

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:13 am
by OldFoo
I wasn't sure what is in M2/M3 cabs, so I made a general reference to standard cabs (Konami, Atari, etc). You learn something new everyday. :smt005
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:06 am
by OldFoo
joshua3dg wrote:I wasn't sure what is in M2/M3 cabs, so I made a general reference to standard cabs (Konami, Atari, etc). You learn something new everyday. :smt005
M2 is a bit different, but on M2 and M3 you can get some M2 working with M3 feedback hardware, and vice versa..
The other companies use cheap feedback solutions, Sega decided to use heavy duty industrial servo motors (500W/0.5hp)
A lot more expensive, but high quality.. on some games on Force 10 setting like Nascar, it rips your arms off.
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:39 pm
by OldFoo
It's excellent if i could play these two on a Scud, i didn't hope that much :smt007
Maybe i'll ask for these wiring Andy than if you count to sell some on your website don't forget to contact me
Thank to you two for all these answers, i learned a lot
