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Converting NAOMI Shooter to CHIHIRO Shooter

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 9:29 pm
by OldFoo
I just acquired a Chihiro Type 1 MoBo and DIMM



Interested in playing...



Ghost Squad

House Of The Dead 3

Virtua Cop 3







I already have a NAOMI shooter cab up and running and can play HODT2, CM, Lupin, MOTK



Hardware Configuration:



JVS I/O

Japaneses Wiring Looms for Analog and Digital

Sanwa Bezel w/ IR Cutouts

IR Sensor Array - Type II

GUN I/O Board - Type II

Red IR sensors covers

Type II guns



All documented here



http://www.sega-naomi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1785





First, Some basic questions



a) Are all connections the same for cabinet for Chihiro as NAOMI?

power - same connectors? same power supply requirements?

audio - just take RCA out into my NAOMI sound AMP?

video - just take VGA out to my monitor?

JVS I/O - USB conection same as NAOMI?

Type II Gun I/O Board - Can this be used with Chihiro setup?



Second, some more detailed questions on gun wiring/use/compatability









I saw this thread from geezer about Chihiro Guns



http://www.sega-naomi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2151



Common is the Am Arms 45Cal (Have these)



which is used on Lost World, HOTD2, Conf Mission, Lupin. (Up and running with these)



Maze uses a same style gun, but different housing, but Maze is a lot better with the 45Cal. (got this style housing also)





Need Some Additional Pointers on the following if anyone has any more info on how too use Type II guns to play HODT3, Ghost Squad, and Vitual Cop 3 in my NAOMI cabinet







1) HOTD3 uses a shotgun, although you can make it work with a 45Cal, buy making out of the screen on/off loop back to the reload (so you point outside the screen to reload).



Any more details on this?





2) Ghost Squad uses the Machine gun, with recoil. but you could use 45Cal guns and add buttons for action/select



will Virtual Cop Guns Work, they seem to have extra button?



how to do this with standard type II guns?



3) Virtua Cop 3 uses 45cal with button at the side and also a pedal (which is just a button), VCop3 and HOTD3 play suprisingly well on the GS guns.



How to use standard type II guns?



Any wiring advice for pedal?



















Thanks

Bob Presutti

Re: Converting NAOMI Shooter to CHIHIRO Shooter

Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 6:27 am
by OldFoo
1) HOTD3 uses a shotgun, although you can make it work with a 45Cal, buy making out of the screen on/off loop back to the reload (so you point outside the screen to reload).



Any more details on this?


i have a vc3 cab and i can play all guns games. from hotd2 (N2) to hotd3 (chi) and all work flawless. still need to buy a GS :(



in hotd3 you can reload with the button on the gun side, very easy and is default (no mods or wiring swap)

Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 7:49 am
by OldFoo
I have the same setup (Naomi and Chihiro T3) and Ghost Squad works perfect except for the two missing buttons (SW3 and SW4) for each player.



I think I'll make a little wodden panel that I'll put on the floor and push the two buttons with my feet...

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 3:53 am
by OldFoo
Thanks for the input.



So, got the Chihiro and hooked it up to my NAOMI shooter cab



Using regular Type II guns...



Ghost Squad Plays Fine and I can use one of the button on my 2P3B control panel for action. (This acutally plays the best of the 3)



HODT3 plays OK but I have to use the button on the control panel to reload (this is kind of a pain) I could easily loop it back so it would reload when pointing offscreen the problem is that it would then be connected to the action button for GS and I can only imaging that that would be kind of funky. But maybe would function as both reload and action for GS when gun is pointed off screen??? Have not tried it.





The worst of the 3 is VCOP3 becuse I don't have a pedal. Anyway to disable it? (it tried changing from Deluxe to Standard Cab but no-go and during game play it keeps insisting I step on the pedal (which I dont have)



I do have some VCOP3 guns.



What is the buttons on the side of the VCOP3 guns for?



(reload?, change waepons?)



Can it be used as a pedal? What does the pedal do. I read on wikipedia that it slow down time???



Anyone know where to get NOS shells and hoses for the VCOP3 guns in the US or other? I've seen NOS shells for the standard type II guns but not for the VCOP3 guns



Anyway, Making progress, GS plays the best, HOTD3 would play fine is I do the loopback thing but would then screw with the action button in GS. And VCOP3 is OK expect for the darn pedal.





If I don't have a pedal what are any other options?







Probably going to swap out my 2p3B panel with my 2P6B panel and see what that does as far as actions and possibly adding a pedal



None of the 3 buttons on the CP that is in there now function as pedal input . Which is really the biggest pain





Any help greatly apprciated



Thanks

Bob Presutti