Cab's Connectors Informations

[OldFoo]

(sorry for my english)



Question 1:



It is possible tu use memory card (for tuning his player) in VF4 FT

if we are in stand alone playing (i mean without living in japan and so, without using net-gaming of the naomi) ???



Answer: Yes



Question 2:



(the question has already be ask, but i am of the origin if this question in france)

What the hell is that ? there is 2 version of capcom IO ?

the fisrt one without metal case and the second ?

One question is interesting me, where is the RCA out in the version 1 ?

and if the audio go throw the jamma, i suppose it's mono (mixed from stereo RCA in) ?







Question 3:



Is this schema ok for linking a game ?







Answer: Yes







Answer: Yes



With a local "Routeur" with good configuration, is this ok ?







And if the last is possible, then this will be possible to ?

between two "Routeur" by internet with configuration that make

like "Routeur" are in local (alone together)... ?







In case of a multi-screen game (example: F355,...) is this ok ?







Answer: Yes



Question 4



it is possible to use two usb card reader for a two player VF4 FT ?

In case of a versus city



http://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=843&page=1#2832



there is only one naomi ?

How the screen is double ?

How to connect the two usb cable from the panel (joytick & buttons) ?

can you make a pic of the card reader and the connectors on the mobo ?







Question 5



can you help me to fullfill or correct these



a = Linkable

b = Net-working

c = Maximum number of players

d = Game Name



a - b - c - d



Naomi 1 Cart (or GD)



N - N - 1 - 18 Wheeler

N - N - 1 - Airline Pilot

N - N - 2 - Cannon Spike

N - N - 2 - Capcom vs SNK : Millenium Fight 2000

N - N - 2 - Charge'N'Blast

N - N - 1 - Cosmic Smash

N - N - 1 - Crackin DJ

N - N - 1 - Crackin DJ Part 2

N - N - 1 - Crazy Taxi

N - N - 2 - Dead Or Alive 2

N - N - 2 - Dead Or Alive 2 Version 2000

N - N - 2 - Death Crimson OX

N - N - 2 - Derby Owners Club

N - N - 2 - Dynamite Baseball

N - N - 2 - Dynamite Baseball '99

N - N - 1 - F1 World Grand Prix

Y - N - 8 - F355 Challenge

Y - N - 8 - F355 Challenge Twin

Y - N - 8 - F355 2: International Course Edition

Y - N - 8 - F355 2: International Course Edition Twin

N - N - ? - Fish Live

N - N - ? - Formation Battle In May

N - N - 2 - Giant Gram 2 : All Japan Pro Wrestling In Nippon Budokan

N - N - 2 - Giant Gram 2000: All Japan Pro Wrestling 3 Brave Men Of Glory

N - N - 2 - Gigawing 2

N - N - 2 - Guilty Gear X

N - N - ? - Gun Beat - Magical Hearts

N - N - 2 - Gun Spike

N - N - 2 - Gun Survivor 2 Biohazard - Code Veronica

Y - N - 4 - Heavy Metal: Geomatrix

N - N - ? - Idol Janshi Suchie-Pai 3

N - N - 1 - Jambo Safari

N - N - 2 - Marvel vs Capcom 2

N - N - 1 - Mazan : Flash Of The Blade

Y - N - ? - Mobile Suit Gundam - Federation vs Zeon

N - N - 2 - Ninja Assault

? - ? - ? - Out Trigger

? - ? - ? - Power Stone

? - ? - ? - Power Stone 2

N - N - 2 - Rival Schools 2: Project Justice

N - N - 2 - Puyo Puyo Da

N - N - 2 - Puyo Puyo Fever

N - N - 2 - Quiz Ah My Goddess

Y - N - 4 - Ring Out 4x4

N - N - 2 - Samba De Amigo

N - N - 2 - Samba De Amigo ver.2000

N - N - 1 - Sega Marine Fishing

N - N - 2 - Sega Tetris

? - ? - ? - Shangri-La

N - N - 2 - Slashout

Y - N - 2 - Spawn

N - N - 1 - Strike Fighter

N - N - 2 - The House Of The Dead 2

N - N - 2 - The Typing Of The Dead

N - N - 1 - Tokyo Bus Tour

? - ? - ? - Touch De Uno

? - ? - ? - Touch De Uno 2

N - N - 2 - Toukon Retsuden 4 - Arcade Edition

N - N - 2 - Toy Fighter - Waffupu

N - N - 2 - Virtua NBA

N - N - 2 - Virtua Striker 2 ver.2000

? - ? - ? - Virtua Tennis - Power Smash

? - ? - ? - Virtua Tennis 2 - Power Smash 2

Y - N - ? - Virtual-On Oratorio tangram MSBS ver.5.66

Y - N - 4 - Wave Runner GP

Y - N - 8 - World Kicks

N - N - 2 - World Series '99

N - N - 4 - WWF Royal Rumble

N - N - 2 - Zero Gunner 2

N - N - 2 - Zombie Revenge



Naomi 1 GD



N - N - 1 - Alien Front Online

N - N - 2 - Azumanga Daioh Puzzle Bobble

N - N - 2 - Border Down

N - N - 2 - Capcom vs SNK: Millenium Fight 2000 Pro

N - N - 2 - Capcom vs SNK: Millionaire Fighting 2001

N - N - 2 - Chaos Field

N - N - 2 - Cleopatra Fortune Plus

N - N - 2 - Confidential Mission

N - N - 1 - Dog Walking

N - N - 2 - Get Bass 2

N - N - 2 - Guilty Gear XX: The Midnight Carnival

N - N - 2 - Guilty Gear XX: Reload

N - N - 2 - Ikaruga

N - N - 2 - La Keyboard

N - N - 2 - Lupin 3: The Shooting

N - N - 2 - Lupin: The Typing

N - N - 2 - Melty Blood - Act Cadenza

Y - N - ? - Mobile Suit Gundam - Federation vs Zeon DX

N - N - 1 - Monkey Ball

N - N - 2 - Musapey's Choco Marker

N - N - 2 - Pochinya

N - N - 1 - Psyvariar 2 - The Will To Fabricate

N - N - 2 - Quiz K Tie Q Mode

N - N - 2 - Shikigami No Shiro 2

N - N - 2 - Shakka To Tambourine

N - N - 2 - Shakka To Tambourine 2001

N - N - 2 - Shakka To Tambourine 2001 Power Up

Y - N - 4 - Spikers Battle

N - N - 2 - Sports Jam

N - N - 2 - Street Fighter Zero 3 Upper

N - N - 2 - Super Major League - World Series Baseball

N - N - 2 - Tetris Kiwamemichi

N - N - 2 - The Maze Of Kings

N - N - 1 - Trigger Heart Exelica

N - N - 2 - Trizea

N - N - 2 - Usagi Yasei No Topai - Yamashiro Mahjong Compilation

N - N - 4 - Virtua Athletics

N - ? - 4 - Virtua Golf - Dynamic Golf



Naomi 2 Cart



Y - N - ? - Club Kart

Y - N - ? - Club Kart - European Session

Y - N - ? - Club Kart Prize

N - N - 1 - King Of Route 66

N - Y - ? - Quest Of D

N - N - 1 - Soul Surfer

N - ? - 2 - Virtua Fighter 4

N - ? - 2 - Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution

N - N - 2 - Virtua Striker 3

? - ? - 2 - Wild Riders



Naomi 2 GD



N - N - 4 - Beach Spikers

Y - ? - 2 - Initiale D : Arcade Stage

Y - ? - 2 - Initiale D : Arcade Stage 2

Y - ? - 2 - Initiale D : Arcade Stage 3

N - ? - 2 - Virtua Fighter 4

N - ? - 2 - Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution

N - Y - 2 - Virtua Fighter 4 Final Tuned



:smt064 :smt117

[OldFoo]

For question #1:



It is possible to save data, but the Naomi system uses cards to do so. There are two versions I am aware of: 1) An automatic card reader that reads and dispenses new cards, 2) A control panel with a single, manual card reader.



For question #2:



I believe the other I/O is from Namco, hence the obvious differences. This I/O doesn't have a RCA out like the Capcom version and most likely outputs in mono (JAMMA standard).



For question #3:



The first and second illustrations are correct for games that support linking. There is more information about linking 2 or more games on the Sega-Naomi main website under 'Hardware'. Games that use SegaNet don't link for playing over Internet or TCP/IP, although I think Sega incorporated this method to be easier alternative to connect than optical cabling. I believe this is for posting scores for ranking, so I don't think illustration #3 will work. Illustration #4 is correct except every mobo needs to have a game.



For question #4:



I have this control panel, and it doesn't use a usb connector. So, in answer to your question, no. However, the Naomi system has two connectors for both Maple and Serial connections. This is in mind for two players.



For question #5:



All Initial D games are linkable with 2 players.

Ring Out 4X4 is linkable to 4 players.

Gundam is linkable for at least 2 players, maybe 4.

Tetris is like it's original counterpart: 2 players, not linkable.

All Virtua Fighter versions are 2 players, not linkable.

Beach Spikers is two players, not linkable. (But I have heard of a 4 player kit)

I think Club Kart is linkable although I'm not sure of max players.

[OldFoo]

Update...



For linking, i have already see hardware section in the site, but i think it don't give clear information, like for example of linking 8 players.

Also, i think many others people will be interesting in the list of linkable game (because in the site, some game a bad information, not linkable, but in description are linkable, and others...)

it is possible to use two usb card reader for a two player VF4 FT ?

In case of a versus city



http://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=843&page=1#2832



there is only one naomi ?

How the screen is double ?

How to connect the two usb cable from the panel (joytick & buttons) ?

can you make a pic of the card reader and the connectors on the mobo ?

[OldFoo]

Yes, only one Naomi is necessary to run dual screen. For a game like VF4, you take players 1 and 2 and separate the signals between two single player panels (player 1 and player 2 has separate wiring). Although there is only one video out, it is easy to use a splitter between two screens. Both screens display the exact same thing.



Once again, the panels DO NOT use usb connections. They use wiring to each button like regular cabinets do. The only usb connection is from the Naomi to the I/O.



I can take a picture of the bottom and wiring, but I do not yet have a picture hosting capability. I'm working on it though.

[OldFoo]

joshua - use imagehack.us its free

[OldFoo]

Here's a pic of the connections for the cp with the reader:







I never got around to checking ImageShack. Thanks, Mr. Megalo!

[OldFoo]

ok, and you connect the card reader on the io.

i don t have any panel and begin with naomi system,

but i have always some questions (sorry):



if think (maybe i am wrong, tell me) it is possible to connect

2 card reader on the io to make each player can play his saves.



but, it this the "sega io rev.1" we can see on your pic ?



it is possible to use a sega io rev.2 to connect 2 players input

(joy and buttons) and 2 card readers ?

(because i really interesting)

[OldFoo]

dont the cables from the card readers connect to the Naomi motherboard ?

[OldFoo]

dont the cables from the card readers connect to the Naomi motherboard ?

Yeah they look just like those CN6 & CN7 cables that my DC ports connect too.

[OldFoo]

CN7 is 11 pin, mapple 2-3

CN6 is 10 pin, mapple 1-0